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Bernstorffsminde Efterskole Rumors

May 142012

I just received a little bit info about Bernstorffsminde Efterskole (it is currently only a rumor).

The information is that Daniel Bay Jensen will be teaching at that school next season. I was surprised and with mixed feelings. Those of you who do not know Daniel he teaches gymnastics at Odense Gymnastikforening and helps with the National Team.

I have never really agreed on the technique and method Daniel uses to teach tumbling, so this resulted with mix feelings when I heard he was going to teach at Bernstorffsminde. The more I thought about it, I actually began to think perhaps this is a good fit for him:

A lof of the gymnasts that come to Bernstorffsmine will already have their basic gymnastic skills in place.
He will be teaching big groups (as I can remember it), so teaching is more about refining then teaching.
A lot of the students want to learn fast regardless of the technique.

All in all… perhaps not a bad idea. Teaching a large group like that isn’t easy, I for sure can’t and never will (nor do I want to).

good luck,

Peter

PS: remember this is only a unverified rumor!

The Whipback

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May 132012

Updated 14/5-2012

To those that are more interested in learning the whipback instead of this lengthy debate about whatever… then you can read a couple of beginner articles how to start learning to do whipbacks:

All of these articles focus on getting your feet in front of you (1st step to learning to do a whip back … well also if you are learning to do a back handspring).

Updated 14/5-2012

lol,.. I can see Daniel (Mr. Bay Netgymnast) has linked to my site via. a untrusted proxy server called “hidemyass”.. this kind of proxy server is used by most part by people that want to be hidden because they are doing unlawful things. I would not recommend using that link, because you can risk being flagged (which means you are now a better candidate for “big brother”… and no “big brother” is not the reality TV show).

Anyways,.. since Daniel wants to explode the conversation and try to force it into a debate war, I guess I should go into more details about the whipback and why it should be long.

The material gymnasts are using today is fantastic,.. they can use fasttracks, airtracks, rod floors and so on… Long time ago gymnasts actually jumped on semi-hard floors. To do skills like a whipback (or back handspring) on a semi-hard floor you had to jump more upwards then backwards, because the semi-hard floors absorb most of the energy. Today the floors are really good at giving this energy back (rebound) to the gymnasts and this of course also means that the technique for doing certain skills has to change.

The whipback has one main purpose and that is to increase speed (gain more power). If the gymnasts do short whipbacks they will loose a lot this power, because they will have to put their body into a position that is not straight. The long the whipback the more straight the body position will be and will be able to utilize the track much better.

Straight you say?!?! Yes straight,.. the goal for all gymnasts is to be as straight as possible when doing whipbacks or back handsprings, but physically this is impossible, but it is something they should be aiming for. The more straight they are will also result with the whipbacks (and back handsprings) being longer. In the real world their will always be a slight arch, but the gymnast should try to reduce this arch.

Daniel works with short whipbacks, big arches and pike landings… all which are completely wrong in my book. I teach at the Odense Idrætspark Gymnastikhal after Daniel and I have a front bench view and can see the results on his gymnasts (I become so sad when I see gymnasts building bad routines up for the rest of their life).

You might being asking your self,.. Daniel has some really good gymnasts on his team like Adam. Yes,. Adam is really good and their are others on Daniels team that are really good…. but if you look at the percentage of how many of his gymnasts become that good you will quickly see that it’s like 1% – 2% and all other gymnasts seem to fade out after time. A talented gymnast will for the most part always move forward regardless of what is being taught. Do not confuse the word “talented gymnast” to everybody.. very few gymnasts are born talented.

Peter

Original Content Below 13/5-2012

A gymnast with the user name “Janus-mols” at netgymnast.net has asked people to look at his whipback and come with comments.

This is one of the few videos I have really have a big respect for, and wish more people would post videos like that instead samplers with gymnasts doing skills they can only do in a pit. See the video and posts here.

I decided to comment on it, because one of the mistakes was that he isn’t getting enough length on his whipback. The angle the whips was taken at makes it hard to see his body position, so I didn’t comment on that until he began to twist where you could clearly see he isn’t keeping the layout position.

Anyways.. the funny part is that more people started to comment on the video (which is great)… but then one of the National Team Coach helper (Daniel) decided to comment on it too and this is were I decided not to continue posting on that thread. What shocks me is what that coach had to say… he basically says that the length of the whipback isn’t important… omg!

I’m surprised that Daniel is a helper on the National Team when he doesn’t even seem to know or understand the basics why a whipback and back handsprings should have length. This also makes me wonder if Michael Jensen the national coach even understands this?! (I once received an email from Michael were he stated the back handspring should have a length that is appropriate to what they are doing,.. this was a good diplomatic answer because it can mean the back handspring should be long …. but it also can mean it should be short depending on what they are trying to achieve…. this was a fair comment and acceptable)

I’m not going to post at NetGymnast because most people their act like they are in kindergarten and can be very difficult to have a serious debate on this kind of subject.

but one thing I’m 100% sure is that the whipbacks and back handsprings must have length!

Peter

EM for Trampoline and Tumbling 2012 – Live Stream

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Apr 112012

Live video for mobile from Ustream

Wednesday 11th April 2012
17.15 – 17.45 Opening
17.45 – 19.30 SYN – Preliminaries for juniors
19.45 – 21.15 SYN – Preliminaries for seniors

Thursday 12th April 2012
09.00 – 11.30 Preliminaries for the Under 21
11.30 – 14.30 TUM and DMT – Preliminaries for seniors
15.00 – 18.45 TRA – Preliminaries for juniors
19.00 – 20.15 DMT / TUM – Team finals seniors
20.30 – 21.15 TRA – Team finals juniors
21.15 – 21.45 Award Ceremony

Friday 13 April 2012
09.00 – 13.30 DMT / TUM – Preliminaries for juniors
10.00 – 12.00 TRA – Training U21 finalists
14.45 – 17.45 TRA – Preliminaries for seniors
18.30 – 19.45 DMT /TUM – Team Finals for juniors
19.45 – 20.30 TRA – Team Finals for seniors
20.45 – 21.15 Award Ceremony

Saturday 14th April 2012
10.30 – 11.30 DMT / TUM – Finals for juniors
11.30 – 11.45 Award Ceremony
11.45 – 12.15 DMT / TUM – Finals Ladies seniors
12.15 – 12.30 Award Ceremony
12.30 – 13.00 DMT / TUM – Finals Men seniors
13.00 – 13.30 Award Ceremony
15.00 – 15.30 Synchro – Finals for juniors
15.30 – 16.00 Synchro – Finals for seniors
16.00 – 16.30 IND – Finals for juniors
16.30 – 16.45 Award Ceremony
16.45 – 17.15 U21 Finals
17.15 – 17.30 Award Ceremony
17.30 – 18.00 IND Finals for seniors
18.00 – 18.30 Award Ceremony
18.30 – 19.00 Closing Ceremony

Jyske Mesterskab 2012 – The Champions

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Apr 042012

Bellinge Gymnasterne take the lead by being the most winning club at the Jyske Mesterskaber 2012. See the results here:

Entry Level	Name	Club
Level 1 – Boys	Nicolai Tilman Nielsen	Bellinge Gymnasterne
Level 1 – Girls	Line Birkholm Pedersen	Bellinge Gymnasterne
Level 2 – Boys	Oskar Veje Christiansen	Bellinge Gymnasterne
Level 2 – Girls	Bára Kristín Thrainsdóttir	Bellinge Gymnasterne
Level 3 – Boys	Morten Ørskov Larsen	Bellinge Gymnasterne
Level 3 – Girls	Yosefine Meshaima	Vestjysk GF (VGF89)
Level C – Boys Mini	David Henri Oliver Erbs	Bellinge Gymnasterne
Level C – Girls Mini	Julia Dyrby Wittmann	Vejlby IK (VIK)
Level C – Girls Junior	Emilie Skovbjerg	Odense Gymnastik Forening
Level B – Boys Mini	Christoffer Scherrebeck	Starup U & IF
Level B – Girls Mini	Sabine Lykke Skjøtt	Outrup GUB
Level B – Boys Junior	Kristoffer Kryger	Silkeborg P / D
Level B – Girls Junior	Camilla Buus Madsen Madsen	Silkeborg P / D
Level B – Boys Senior	Sune Jensen	Ollerup Gymnastikforening
Level B – Girls Senior	Chanettelin Jensen Grødahl	Ollerup Gymnastikforening
Level A – Boys Mini	Elias Green	Vestjysk GF (VGF89)
Level A – Girls Mini	Sara Raunholt Ørskov	Outrup GUB
Level A – Boys Junior	Adam Scharf Matthiesen	Odense Gymnastik Forening
Level A – Girls Junior	Anne-Sofie Juhl Jørgensen	Vestjysk GF (VGF89)
Level A – Boys Senior	Anders Wesch	Vestjysk GF (VGF89)
Level A – Girls Senior	Johanne Nørby	Svendborg GF

Club Rank

Club	Jyskemester
Bellinge Gymnasterne	6
Vestjysk GF (VGF89)	4
Ollerup Gymnastikforening	2
Silkeborg P / D	2
Odense Gymnastik Forening	2
Vejlby IK (VIK)	1
Starup U & IF	1
Svendborg GF	1
Outrup GUB	1

Jyske Mesterskaber 2012 – Video of Bellinge Gymnasterne

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Apr 032012

Bellinge Gymnasterne took 6 “Jyske Mesterskaber” home with them. Here is a video that shows them as a class above all others:

Jyske Mesterskaber 2012

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Mar 212012

Update (1/4.2012) - The results for the competition can be downloaded here

The schedule for the event has been released today and a very good surprise was included. The beginner levels will have finals if their are more than 10 gymnasts in their entry level. I am very happy to see this change and hope it continues as a standard to all competitions.

The invite can be seen here

The schedule can be seen here

Participants for Level 1, 2, 3 can be seen here

Participants for Level C, B, A (elite) can be seen here

The event is on the 31st of March at Holstebro, Døesvejens fritidscenter

Good Luck to all participants!

“Kraftcenter”, DGF’s Biggest Flop

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Mar 132012

DGF’s “Kraftcenter” for tumbling is without a doubt DGF’s biggest flop. The Kraftcenter was designed to help gymnasts work towards coming onto the National Tumbling Team. Sounds good, but it has it’s dark side… a very dark side.

When DGF designed the concept they never considered where or when these gymnasts should practice. DGF isn’t going to pay to rent a gym, instead they are going to push clubs out of the gym, so they can take their time slots…. and this is exactly what they are doing.

My team have the worst possible time slots at the Odense Idrætspark Gymnastic-center, but we use the time we got optimal. The time slots we have are Friday, Sunday and Monday and these time slots are taken away from us every time Kraftcenter wants to practice at the Odense Idrætspark Gymnastic-center. Last week we lost 4 days in a row, because they wanted to practice at our time slot. Friday the 23rd of April we again have lost our time slot and this is one week before a competition. Soon it is Easter and we normally get to train in our time slots at this time… but again “Kraftcenter” has taken our time and kicked us out (April 5th-8th).

I have actually had a meeting with Jan Donde (Managing Director at DGF) and Henrik Bertelsen (member of the Executive at DGF) about the problems that the “Kraftcenter” inflicts on our club. This meeting turned out to be a big waste of time (I took free from work, costing me a days salary) to hear both Mr. Donde and Mr. Bertelsen. The end result is that they try to push the problem over to the Odense Idrætspark cancelling our time and not them… which is just a typical political deflection tactic used by people in high positions that can not resolve a problem.

The DGF Kraftcenter should have a motto that says “Me not We”… since they don’t care about anybody else but themselves and take the time slots from other clubs that actually try help gymnasts to become elite.

more to come….

Bellinge Gymnasternes – Show at Højby

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Mar 122012

Bellinge Gymnasterne did their first show for 2012 at Højby Hallerne. This video shows that Bellinge Gymnasterne can more than just tumble!

Bellinge Gymnasternes Tumbling Team have now done two shows.. the second video will come soon…

I’m getting a lot of questions from parents and coaches about our team and I thought I’ll answer some of them here:

Q: Are only selected gymnasts allowed on the team?

A: No,.. we did at one time have a selection procedure at the start of the session, but decided to ditch it. Our team is open for everybody, we currently have 4 teams and were we try to find the team that best fits the gymnast.

Q: How many hours a week do we practice?

A: This depends on which tumbling team:

Team 1 – 1 hour (once a week,.. optional twice a week)
Team 2 – 1 hour (once a week,.. optional twice a week)
Team 3 – 3 hour (once a week,.. optional 3 hours extra)
Team 4 – 6 hours (once a week,.. optional 3 hours extra)

Q: How many years has the tumbling team existed?

A: 2½ years… most of the gymnasts on our team have only trained 1-1½ years and started on our team with their highest skill level being a cartwheel. After 1 year almost all gymnasts on our team can do back handspring and forward somersaults without spotting.

Q: Why do you not have any teams at the higher end of tumbling (ages 15+) ?

A: This is one of the simplest questions to answer… We have only had tumbling for 2½ years and when we started tumbling at Bellinge Gymnasterne we decided to start at the bottom and work up. In a couple of years some of our gymnasts will be 15+ and start in the higher levels.

Q: What age should a gymnast start?

A: The political correct answer is “at all ages”, but the truth is parents should see if their child enjoys and “lives” in a gymnastic world, meaning they are doing rolls and cartwheels whenever they can. If their child is doing this then the parents should quickly get them into gymnastic classes as soon as possible (move away from recreational gymnastics and into a more professional environment)…. good starting age is around 6.

Q: Who should I contact?

A: That would be me (Peter) at marino.peter@gmail.com

Website Rank

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Mar 062012

Our sister site “Tumbling Drills” is now ranked 4 on google rank. This is really amazing, because google rank is not a linearity function, but based more on an exponential function, which means that there is only about 25 sites that have rank 10. This means rank 4 is actually a very high number.

To put things in perspective here are some page ranks:

	www.dgi.dk
	www.dgf.dk
	tumblingdrills.com
	powertumbling.dk
	powertumbling.net
	netgymnast.dk
	springsikker.dk

Note: Tumbling Drills website has only been online for 4 months and is becoming very popular very quickly.

you can check page ranking at http://checkpagerank.net

Untruthful Gossip

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Mar 052012

It has come to my attention that people (coaches) at my former club keep saying that I was “thrown out”… which is just lie.

I left Odense Gymnastik Forening (OGF) on my own accord, because I do not agree with their club model and methods. This does not mean it is a bad club, it just means it does not fit for me.

Let’s hope this is the last I hear about this.

Peter

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